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PostPosted:Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:09 pm    Post subject Reply with quoteFind all posts by RickH

Does the lid on the hopper have to be closed. I am thinking of making a hopper extension and need to know if it I take it off or leave it open, will it shut the stove down? Thanks
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PostPosted:Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:36 pm    Post subject Reply with quoteFind all posts by Corny

JET answered this question in approx 2006. If I recall correctly, he said that the lid serves no operational function. However, to receive product certification, a warning label was required, then later a shutoff switch, which, I presume could be easily bypassed. The requirement is no doubt a carryover from the risks posed by auger stoves in which the auger is a conduit between the burn chamber and the hopper.

A full extended hopper would add more load on the feedwheel cover. You wouldn't want to go too high. Use your search button and I think you'll find at least one successful example.

Any mods to your stove could void your warranty and your insurance.
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PostPosted:Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:39 pm    Post subject Reply with quoteFind all posts by rona

The 115 doesn't have a switch on the lid so you can run it with a extension.
My experience was after filling my extension I would have a feeder wheel malfunction and have to empty it. just a lousy coincidence but sort of humbling.
The UBB does have a lid switch.
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PostPosted:Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:44 pm    Post subject Reply with quoteFind all posts by Corny

Thx, Rona. I thought that JET said that they'd be putting lid switches on to assuage the certifier. Mine (a 2005 model) doesn't have one. Good that later models don't either.
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PostPosted:Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:46 pm    Post subject Reply with quoteFind all posts by RickH

How big is/was your extension? Are you still using the extension? Do you think weight was the culprit of the feeder wheel malfunction? Thanks
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PostPosted:Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:54 pm    Post subject Reply with quoteFind all posts by Corny

Rick, I ran the search for you. See http://forum.iburncorn.com/viewtopic.php?t=2814&highlight=hopper .

It says that Bixby made a 100 lb extension prototype and was planning to try a larger one.
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PostPosted:Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:55 pm    Post subject Reply with quoteFind all posts by RickH

Thanks, I found that one in the last few minutes and just got done reading. Looks like that was your post.
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PostPosted:Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:59 pm    Post subject Reply with quoteFind all posts by Corny

... which is why I remembered some of it (less the lid switch part, anyhow).
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PostPosted:Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:01 pm    Post subject Reply with quoteFind all posts by rona

It held three 5 gallon pails of corn and it worked good for the times we would be gone for a long weekend.
The weight didn't cause the problem. Human error or a "lazy man's stove" was the culprit as I had neglected cleaning the fines out of the corn.
The only problem is the placement of the controls for the Bixby as they are in back of the extension.
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PostPosted:Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:02 pm    Post subject Reply with quoteFind all posts by RickH

I never did find a consensus on whether the added weight would hurt the feeder wheel motor. Any thoughts?
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PostPosted:Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:05 pm    Post subject Reply with quoteFind all posts by RickH

I guess the engineers were not worried about it and rona said it did'nt affect his. I will give a removable one a try.
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PostPosted:Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:06 pm    Post subject Reply with quoteFind all posts by Corny

In my 2006, JET responded that the UBB has tall extensions with the same feeder wheel and motor. The only diff is a larger feedwheel cover, which I presume extends a little further down so that less of the feedwheel is exposed. It would be easy to fab an extension for the feedwheel cover.
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PostPosted:Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:17 pm    Post subject Reply with quoteFind all posts by rona

I could measure the difference between the UBB and the 115 tomorrow and post it in the morning.
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PostPosted:Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:24 am    Post subject Reply with quoteFind all posts by DOLLARBILL

Rona any chance of seeing a pic of that extension ??
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