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PostPosted:Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:30 pm    Post subject Reply with quoteFind all posts by catalina0029

What am I supposed to use to vent the Amaizablaze 7100? This has a 3" exhaust vent and a 6"? air intake vent. What parts do I need? I would like to vent through the wall just behind the stove. The wall is wood construction, 9" thick. I do need outside air for combustion because I do get into flammables in the shop occasionally. Can anyone tell me what I need here? Many thanks
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PostPosted:Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:21 pm    Post subject Reply with quoteFind all posts by rona

There is several companies that make 3" corn stove pipe. It is double wall pipe and as the name implies it is made special for burning corn.
You could use 6" black single wall pipe and slip it over the 3 inch pipe then you will have a pipe in the pipe double wall system. Not sure if that was what you wanted or not.
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PostPosted:Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:09 pm    Post subject Reply with quoteFind all posts by SidecarFlip

I believe the appliance draws it's combustion air in and exhausts out with a saimesed pipe, which is not common to most appliances.

Intake air is the outside diameter and exhaust is the inside diameter.
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PostPosted:Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:21 pm    Post subject Reply with quoteFind all posts by rona

Same as a Bixby only it is 3 inch and 5 inch
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PostPosted:Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:35 pm    Post subject Reply with quoteFind all posts by command_z

Dan...since you already need a vent kit, this would be a great time to decide if you will ever want to burn pellets, or grains other than corn. The stove requires a different kit to convert it to multi-fuel. Why spend a hundred bucks for a corn only kit, then decide you want to add pellets. Any local dealer can fix you up with either kit that you choose.
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PostPosted:Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:29 pm    Post subject Reply with quoteFind all posts by catalina0029

command z,
I hear you loud and clear. However, it's $415.00. Shocked
I'm not sure which way to go. I have lots and lots of 3" double wall but I need the 3 x 5.

rona, does the Bixby need an adapter to connect the stove to the vent system?

Is what I'm looking for a dealer item only?
Maybe that's why I'm confused.
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Click on my e-mail and send me a message. I can send a picture of what I use to you.
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PostPosted:Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:17 pm    Post subject Reply with quoteFind all posts by catalina0029

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PostPosted:Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:41 pm    Post subject Reply with quoteFind all posts by catalina0029

OK, it's me again.
Why do you need an induced draft fan to burn pellets and cherry pits, but you can get away with a forced draft fan to burn corn?
* Dried cherry pits: 9523 BTU’s/pound
* Dried shelled corn: 8500 BTU’s/pound
* Dried wood pellets: 8000 BTU’s/pound*
This just doesn't make sense to me. There is only 500 BTU's difference between corn and wood pellets.
So I can burn corn with forced draft, but not pellets and not cherry pits.
Why does the operation of the furnace need to be changed that much to go from positive draft to negative?
I am interested in burning cherry pits.
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PostPosted:Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:08 pm    Post subject Reply with quoteFind all posts by rona

There is a big difference in the volume of a lb of corn versus a lb of cherry pits. That will have a difference in performance of the two products.
The same is true of pellets versus corn.
I think a forced draft will burn all the products you mentioned whereas a induced draft will only burn pellets and cherry pits. Hence a pellet stove will have a induced draft but a true biomass stove will be a forced draft situation.
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PostPosted:Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:33 pm    Post subject Reply with quoteFind all posts by SidecarFlip

catalina0029 wrote:
What am I supposed to use to vent the Amaizablaze 7100? This has a 3" exhaust vent and a 6"? air intake vent. What parts do I need? I would like to vent through the wall just behind the stove. The wall is wood construction, 9" thick. I do need outside air for combustion because I do get into flammables in the shop occasionally. Can anyone tell me what I need here? Many thanks
Dan


I believe what you'll find (and we've discussed this before in other threads) is that your insurance company, if they find out you have a solid fuel appliance in your shop, will either cancel you (bad thing here in Michigan) or tell you to remove it. Michigan insurers frown on that type of installation.

I know, I live here too.

If you don't tell them and have a loss. expect not to be covered and cancelled in the aftermath.

It's way to much risk for so little benefit.
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PostPosted:Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:34 pm    Post subject Reply with quoteFind all posts by SCOOPS

Two words. Burn back.
If you were to burn pellets without the kit, you risk the chance of a fire in the hopper
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PostPosted:Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:35 pm    Post subject Reply with quoteFind all posts by SidecarFlip

SCOOPS wrote:
Two words. Burn back.
If you were to burn pellets without the kit, you risk the chance of a fire in the hopper


...and that appliance is notorious for burnback, notwithstanding your insurance company's stance on the appliance in the first place.
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PostPosted:Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:14 pm    Post subject Reply with quoteFind all posts by jef1ge

Catalina, with the pellets and burn back in the pressure setup you can get carbon monoxide in the house.

A vent kit from Nesco has an outer thru the wall slip joint 6", and the inner exhaust 3" is semi flex stainless that you cut off the excess and clamp it at the outer termination. I got my kit for $40 I think when I bought the stove. Don't use the cheap hardware that comes with it get stainless steel screws.

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PostPosted:Fri Jan 22, 2010 4:32 pm    Post subject Reply with quoteFind all posts by catalina0029

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I believe what you'll find (and we've discussed this before in other threads) is that your insurance company, if they find out you have a solid fuel appliance in your shop, will either cancel you (bad thing here in Michigan) or tell you to remove it. Michigan insurers frown on that type of installation.


Now you tell me. Ugh!
I'll call the inusrance people before I install it.
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