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[tallcorn]

Convenience is nice. My beef is with Acai Berries. Dwell on that. I wonder if there is any heat in them.
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Countryside 3500P (pedestal version) used 8-9 yrs, 24/7 during days requiring heat. All original motors. Burns moldy corn, and pellets equally well. Burn it if you got it.

[kevinskats]

Well I am still around here. Not everyone has been scared off..LOL! Made it through another heating season and the fuel ran out just about the right time. Unlike previous years, this year I burned 75% barley/25% corn. It did really well although at -30 F OAT the mix just can't quite cut it. But then, I am heating 6K s.f. with a boiler designed for 4k. Maybe with some more insulation in a few key places....it will all work great! Anyway....I always take this time of the year to look back at what worked, and what didn't. Make notes for upcoming heating season. I still would like to hear from someone burning corn to produce electricity.
Politically speaking....which seems to be what caused this whole brewha....I, and a few others....are not all that happy with what we see going on in this country. No doubt, there are those who don't see any problem....although I feel that this number has been dropping as of lately. If the next 1360 days turn out like the past 100 or so days....we as taxpayers will be owning a serious portion of private enterprise in the country over the next several years. I have nothing against owning some stock in private enterprise...I would just rather do it without the federal government making my choices for me. Let's just say...I don't really trust them to make a good decision. Somebody somewhere is going to end up with a huge bill and I can already see people making changes and manuevering themselves around so as not to be in the situation where they will be confronted with the tab. What does all of this have to do with heating with corn??? I have already gotten the note from my electrical supplier....(who I still need to do business with)...his take on all this?? Expect some SUBSTANTIAL increases in electrical rates over the next couple of years. This year it will be 13%....and that is just the beginning. You see...here in North Dakota, our electrical power is generated by coal......do I need to say more? Probably a little late to build a nuclear reactor...and as nice as wind power sounds, when the wind quits...so does your electrical power. Better hope it doesn't happen in the middle of a blizzard or something. But of course....I am all in favor of humans cleaning up their act and learning to do things in an environmentally friendly manner....only thing is...do we need to do it in ten years?? Humans have been messing up the planet for thousands of years....can we afford to change all that in two terms?? And even if we can...(afford it I mean)...what about countries like China and India? Are they going to do the same? As big an impact as some think we as U.S. citizens will have....geographically speaking we are nearly insignificant with respect to land mass and even population. Anyway....I apologize for the rambling....I think when the discussion sinks to the level where labels and namecalling begins, it signifies the end of the discussion. Lately, even more so than back in 07 when this thread began, namecalling has sunk to new record lows.

[ASHDUMP]

Good point.

Cap and Trade will kill America. There is no reason for it at all. Do we really think that America cleaning up its act will impact mother earth? There is not one other significant country in the world who will follow behind us on this.

Cap and Trade is a sleazy way for our government to control the people and we don't even realize it. ....oh, and a good way for Al Gore to make crap loads of money trading carbon credits. (Camco International, LTD. and Generation Investment Management) LOOK IT UP!
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[kevinskats]

From what I have heard so far (the discussions are just getting under way), cap and trade will literally break the backs of the middle class. The way I see it....those considered poor already rely on the federal government and will continue to do so. The federal government and the democratic party in particular, have the poor people pretty much under their thumb, meaning that the votes of the poor are really solid. The wealthy can afford to pay the utility expenses but doing so will just be an annoyance and will reduce the amount of cash they have which was previously used on some of their other activities that use to benefit the economy. The middle class cannot afford to pay the increased costs as a result of cap and trade and the lower end of the middle class will end up adding to the poor making them subject to federal government control and will be added to those who will vote for more government assistance so they can keep their heads above water a little longer. I think the key here is that with cap and trade, there will be more Americans who will have to rely on the federal government for assistance of some form or another. This will be funded by the federal government by increased taxes on the more well to do Americans (redistribution of wealth). Once you start relying on the government for anything, it becomes very difficult to get off government assistance. Just my opinion of course! Out in the country where I live, we still have a few resources to tap into until the government catches up with us....but for those living in the city (the majority of citizens in my geographical area) it will be just a matter of paying up, getting out or signing up for federal assistence of some sort. It just means more government control....and unfortunately, I doubt if any of it will really have any benefit on the climate of the planet because none of these other countries are going to follow our lead. "never waste a good crisis" as Rahm Emmanual would say.

[Big Daddy]

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[upnort]

Good Morning. Have read the blogs. I have noticed that the administrator is correct, the blogs have got out of hand and then have toned down. I think the subject is very good, I too have my opinions and will put them up shortly. What I think needs to be said is that the forum site on Global warming should be divided. One side should be for warming comments, help, etc. The other side should be for the political side of the issue. That way the name calling and innuendos could be separated from the environmental issue and the political side I would not like the forum to close down as this is a very important issue and comments should be aired. As far as the administrator is concerned I do not like the attacks on his views. If I read it right he wanted comments on the issue pro and con, not personal attacks. Thank You. UP NORT

[Occam]

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