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HMVE Serious Burner


Joined: 11 Jun 2006 Posts: 502 Location: Hampton Minnesota
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Posted:Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:25 pm Post subject |
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Just asking if there would be any intrest in a biomass pellet made from wood,sunflower hules, distillers grain and soybeanstalks
priced at $215 a ton bagged and $195 ton in 1 ton totes
Any comments welcome
Twin cities metro are area
Paul _________________ Selling Clean Corn to Heat Your Home
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LurkMaster Regular Burner


Joined: 30 Nov 2007 Posts: 412 Location: Nelson Wisconsin
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Posted:Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:02 pm Post subject |
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I'd have to try them before I could say what they'd be worth to me.
The ones I got at Eagle Biofuels really sucked in my pc45
My question would be, since they're made with a mix of "waste" products, why wouldn't they be cheaper then full wood pellets?
Just kind of curious, with other things costing more because their more "green". _________________ Harman PC45
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HMVE Serious Burner


Joined: 11 Jun 2006 Posts: 502 Location: Hampton Minnesota
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Posted:Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:23 pm Post subject |
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I am not sure why they are so high priced It is a new company _________________ Selling Clean Corn to Heat Your Home
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rona Super Burner

Joined: 24 Nov 2006 Posts: 1594 Location: Southwestern Minn
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Posted:Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:36 pm Post subject |
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| I got some from eagle also. They would have to be considerably cheaper then wood pellets or corn. Unless they could be improved a lot from last year I wouldn't want them just because they were so messy. It costs a certain amount to make a pellet whether it be a wood pellet or grass or bio mass such as cornstalk or soybean stubble. I can't see very much difference in the price between burning a good pellet and a dirty one. |
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sting Super Burner


Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 4120 Location: In my own world - its ok - They know me here - I play with Fire and Water
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Posted:Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:36 pm Post subject |
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Whats the ash content and BTU per pound vs something I know like Pro Pellets? _________________ When you turn your boiler on - - Does it return the favor?
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HMVE Serious Burner


Joined: 11 Jun 2006 Posts: 502 Location: Hampton Minnesota
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Posted:Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:03 pm Post subject |
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btu 8300 per pound ash I do not know.
It is an improved sunrise agra pellet
I will have to get some and do a burn test
But they have to be cheaper than corn for me to use them. _________________ Selling Clean Corn to Heat Your Home
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tyke Regular Burner

Joined: 29 Oct 2006 Posts: 236 Location: Twin Cities, MN
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Posted:Wed Oct 08, 2008 5:43 am Post subject |
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If you get some extra, I would like to try them out also. See how the quads like em. Price seems a little high, but that might be wishful thinking on their part. _________________ Quadrafire Mt. Vernon AE running 4.0.7- upstairs
Quadrafire CB1200i - basement
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girls_hunt_too Regular Burner

Joined: 18 Sep 2008 Posts: 206 Location: Delta, Ohio
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Posted:Wed Oct 08, 2008 8:26 am Post subject |
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I can get corn for less than $140 a ton so it makes no sense for me to even consider either of the options to vote. Sorry. It would need to be around $100 a ton for me to put up with the messier fuels. _________________ Why do people treat Strangers Nicer than they treat their Spouses?
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HMVE Serious Burner


Joined: 11 Jun 2006 Posts: 502 Location: Hampton Minnesota
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Posted:Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:45 am Post subject |
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girls_hunt_too I have to agree with you. aslong as corn stays low
I"ve just had so many people looking for wood pellets this year and some with auto ignition stove want a mix of pellets and corn
The problem with pellets is the transportation cost. If you are near a Pellet plant they are reasonable. if not add 25 to 40 per ton _________________ Selling Clean Corn to Heat Your Home
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LurkMaster Regular Burner


Joined: 30 Nov 2007 Posts: 412 Location: Nelson Wisconsin
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Posted:Wed Oct 08, 2008 7:20 pm Post subject |
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I remember thinking the same thing about the price vs what I was getting corn for last year. Notice the "WAS" because, sometimes, Poop happens, and then your left spending more then you thought youd' ever spend. LOL
I just think that since the BioMas is being made of more so waste product, they would be cheaper. Given you'd think they would be messier, and create more ass, but cheaper none the less.
HMVE might want to check again on so many people looking for pellets, now that corn has come down less then the pellet cost.
 _________________ Harman PC45
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SidecarFlip Super Burner

Joined: 28 Mar 2008 Posts: 3183 Location: Deerfield, Michigan
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Posted:Thu Oct 09, 2008 5:45 am Post subject |
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Anything to do with Distillers Grain makes me cringe. We have an E-Plant close by (GLS) that has DG available for feed. We tried some for kicks and grins and found it marginally acceptable and that's it.
When you cook all the starch out you don't have much left.
Hopefully, this country will realize (at some point) that ethanol isn't the way to go. That would be just fine with me. Another of GWB's follies. _________________ Flipmeisters Specialty Products, LLC
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sting Super Burner


Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 4120 Location: In my own world - its ok - They know me here - I play with Fire and Water
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Posted:Thu Oct 09, 2008 6:02 am Post subject |
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Side car
PEOPLE -- wanted alternative fuels
FARMERS wanted more for their corn
Be careful what you ask for - you may get it !
But lets keep the GW and the GWB comments in the Global Warming BS threads below please and stay on topic here _________________ When you turn your boiler on - - Does it return the favor?
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Mopar1169
Joined: 05 Dec 2008 Posts: 11 Location: Mid-Michigan
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Posted:Fri Feb 06, 2009 2:56 am Post subject |
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What about a pellet that was 75% corn and 25% wood that came out of a premium pellet maker? Since most people mix pellets with corn since they don't like to deal with hard clinkers or the stove they have can't handle all corn. Just wondering thinking about getting into the briquette and pellet buisness. Looking for another way to sell corn that comes out of the field. _________________ Shawn |
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thdrduck Regular Burner

Joined: 06 Nov 2007 Posts: 213 Location: Suburbs of Hegg WI
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Posted:Sat Feb 07, 2009 11:04 am Post subject |
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I almost imported a pellet and hammer mill from China 2 years ago so I could make my own pellets. I figured it to be cost effective as long as I can buy large round bales for about $20.
The Agri pellets burned well when mixed with corn at say 50 - 50 mix but I would not pay more then corn for them.
As it turns out the small pellet mills just don't make a quality pellet so I saved myself some bucks and frustration.
From what I have gathered, most all pellets are made from "waste". The only cost in the raw material is in the transport. I know the big time pellet makers are big time bucks so they need to charge alot to get some investment back. _________________ TTFN
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SidecarFlip Super Burner

Joined: 28 Mar 2008 Posts: 3183 Location: Deerfield, Michigan
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Posted:Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:09 am Post subject |
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| thdrduck wrote: | I almost imported a pellet and hammer mill from China 2 years ago so I could make my own pellets. I figured it to be cost effective as long as I can buy large round bales for about $20.
The Agri pellets burned well when mixed with corn at say 50 - 50 mix but I would not pay more then corn for them.
As it turns out the small pellet mills just don't make a quality pellet so I saved myself some bucks and frustration.
From what I have gathered, most all pellets are made from "waste". The only cost in the raw material is in the transport. I know the big time pellet makers are big time bucks so they need to charge alot to get some investment back. |
That isn't the way it works in business. The cost of the physical plant is amortized over a long period plus the physical equipment is depreciated. Operating costs as well as overheads such as employees and energy usage are factored in. The term 'waste' isn't really true today. It's material superfluous to other manufacturing operations like flooring mills, pallet operations, furniture makers and other users of wood products. Once a viable use for what once was 'waste' is established, it's no longer waste but becomes a product and a profit to the original manufacturer.
A good example is Somerset Pellet in Somerset, Kentucky. Somerset is located next door to a Weyerhauser flooring plant. Transportation costs are minimized and the flooring plant makes additional profit on what once was a liability, plus the material is kept out of the local landfill. _________________ Flipmeisters Specialty Products, LLC
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