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At what price would you burn biomass pellets
200 to 220 per ton bagged
11%
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180 to 200 per ton bagged
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PostPosted:Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:25 pm    Post subject Reply with quoteFind all posts by HMVE

Just asking if there would be any intrest in a biomass pellet made from wood,sunflower hules, distillers grain and soybeanstalks
priced at $215 a ton bagged and $195 ton in 1 ton totes
Any comments welcome
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PostPosted:Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:02 pm    Post subject Reply with quoteFind all posts by LurkMaster

I'd have to try them before I could say what they'd be worth to me.
The ones I got at Eagle Biofuels really sucked in my pc45
My question would be, since they're made with a mix of "waste" products, why wouldn't they be cheaper then full wood pellets?
Just kind of curious, with other things costing more because their more "green".
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PostPosted:Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:23 pm    Post subject Reply with quoteFind all posts by HMVE

I am not sure why they are so high priced It is a new company
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PostPosted:Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:36 pm    Post subject Reply with quoteFind all posts by rona

I got some from eagle also. They would have to be considerably cheaper then wood pellets or corn. Unless they could be improved a lot from last year I wouldn't want them just because they were so messy. It costs a certain amount to make a pellet whether it be a wood pellet or grass or bio mass such as cornstalk or soybean stubble. I can't see very much difference in the price between burning a good pellet and a dirty one.
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PostPosted:Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:36 pm    Post subject Reply with quoteFind all posts by sting

Whats the ash content and BTU per pound vs something I know like Pro Pellets?
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PostPosted:Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:03 pm    Post subject Reply with quoteFind all posts by HMVE

btu 8300 per pound ash I do not know.
It is an improved sunrise agra pellet



I will have to get some and do a burn test

But they have to be cheaper than corn for me to use them.
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PostPosted:Wed Oct 08, 2008 5:43 am    Post subject Reply with quoteFind all posts by tyke

If you get some extra, I would like to try them out also. See how the quads like em. Price seems a little high, but that might be wishful thinking on their part.
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PostPosted:Wed Oct 08, 2008 8:26 am    Post subject Reply with quoteFind all posts by girls_hunt_too

I can get corn for less than $140 a ton so it makes no sense for me to even consider either of the options to vote. Sorry. It would need to be around $100 a ton for me to put up with the messier fuels.
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PostPosted:Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:45 am    Post subject Reply with quoteFind all posts by HMVE

girls_hunt_too I have to agree with you. aslong as corn stays low

I"ve just had so many people looking for wood pellets this year and some with auto ignition stove want a mix of pellets and corn

The problem with pellets is the transportation cost. If you are near a Pellet plant they are reasonable. if not add 25 to 40 per ton
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PostPosted:Wed Oct 08, 2008 7:20 pm    Post subject Reply with quoteFind all posts by LurkMaster

I remember thinking the same thing about the price vs what I was getting corn for last year. Notice the "WAS" because, sometimes, Poop happens, and then your left spending more then you thought youd' ever spend. LOL
I just think that since the BioMas is being made of more so waste product, they would be cheaper. Given you'd think they would be messier, and create more ass, but cheaper none the less.

HMVE might want to check again on so many people looking for pellets, now that corn has come down less then the pellet cost.
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Anything to do with Distillers Grain makes me cringe. We have an E-Plant close by (GLS) that has DG available for feed. We tried some for kicks and grins and found it marginally acceptable and that's it.

When you cook all the starch out you don't have much left.

Hopefully, this country will realize (at some point) that ethanol isn't the way to go. That would be just fine with me. Another of GWB's follies.
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PostPosted:Thu Oct 09, 2008 6:02 am    Post subject Reply with quoteFind all posts by sting

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PEOPLE -- wanted alternative fuels

FARMERS wanted more for their corn


Be careful what you ask for - you may get it !

But lets keep the GW and the GWB comments in the Global Warming BS threads below please and stay on topic here
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PostPosted:Fri Feb 06, 2009 2:56 am    Post subject Reply with quoteFind all posts by Mopar1169

What about a pellet that was 75% corn and 25% wood that came out of a premium pellet maker? Since most people mix pellets with corn since they don't like to deal with hard clinkers or the stove they have can't handle all corn. Just wondering thinking about getting into the briquette and pellet buisness. Looking for another way to sell corn that comes out of the field.
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I almost imported a pellet and hammer mill from China 2 years ago so I could make my own pellets. I figured it to be cost effective as long as I can buy large round bales for about $20.
The Agri pellets burned well when mixed with corn at say 50 - 50 mix but I would not pay more then corn for them.
As it turns out the small pellet mills just don't make a quality pellet so I saved myself some bucks and frustration.
From what I have gathered, most all pellets are made from "waste". The only cost in the raw material is in the transport. I know the big time pellet makers are big time bucks so they need to charge alot to get some investment back.
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PostPosted:Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:09 am    Post subject Reply with quoteFind all posts by SidecarFlip

thdrduck wrote:
I almost imported a pellet and hammer mill from China 2 years ago so I could make my own pellets. I figured it to be cost effective as long as I can buy large round bales for about $20.
The Agri pellets burned well when mixed with corn at say 50 - 50 mix but I would not pay more then corn for them.
As it turns out the small pellet mills just don't make a quality pellet so I saved myself some bucks and frustration.
From what I have gathered, most all pellets are made from "waste". The only cost in the raw material is in the transport. I know the big time pellet makers are big time bucks so they need to charge alot to get some investment back.


That isn't the way it works in business. The cost of the physical plant is amortized over a long period plus the physical equipment is depreciated. Operating costs as well as overheads such as employees and energy usage are factored in. The term 'waste' isn't really true today. It's material superfluous to other manufacturing operations like flooring mills, pallet operations, furniture makers and other users of wood products. Once a viable use for what once was 'waste' is established, it's no longer waste but becomes a product and a profit to the original manufacturer.

A good example is Somerset Pellet in Somerset, Kentucky. Somerset is located next door to a Weyerhauser flooring plant. Transportation costs are minimized and the flooring plant makes additional profit on what once was a liability, plus the material is kept out of the local landfill.
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