Traeger Feed Cup / Auger Issue

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Good detective work

bravo


now --- the auger motors should NOT be running when the feed switch iS in the CENTER position

if the switch in in the CENTER detente - it is in draft fan mode and only the combustion fan should be receiving power to run based on the position of the PILOT DRAFT FAN SWITCH...and relative to the appliance being in under call for hi fire or pilot mode

when switched to "FEED SYSTEM" and in hi burn mode - both the combustion fan and auger motors should spin up to full power - in idle,,, the combustion fan will spin down to one of two lower spin revolutions or off - dependent on the position of the PILOT DRAFT FAN SWITCH...when in pilot ( idle fire mode)
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[tallcorn]

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Tall -- Do you have something to add to help Wayjamus
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[Wayjamus]

My pic is the one I took yesterday and is the actual control panel. Tall's pic is exactly what I have in my manual and I did get one off the web somewhere. Found this one, not sure if it's the one I got or not:

http://www.pinnaclestove.com/sheets/gbu070mn.pdf

I'm beginning to wonder about my control panel. The combustion fan now goes full speed regardless of the position of the PILOT DRAFT SWITCH even if it's off. It's high speed no matter what. When I switch to "FEED" the motors turn off, only the combustion fan stays on.

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[Wayjamus]

I'm about to switch to hard liquor myself.

No, I've got the switch wired back to the way it was, I think. LOL I think it was purple on top green on the bottom.

The t-stat is still calling for power, but right now I've got the furnace turned off and unplugged.

The combustion fan runs on high speed though regardless of what position the switch is in. I'm just worried that it's going to run on high all the time. And if the fan is running on high all the time, does that mean the feed system is going to run on high as well? If I wire in a rheostat to the combustion fan, will that affect the feed rate?

[tallcorn]

Wayjamus, the purple and green wires to the proof of fire switch can go either way. No, don't wire in a reostat. Set the pilot cycle switch to 16. Set the feed system switch to the top position. Set the pilot draft fan to medium.
When you turn the thermostat off does the red pilot lamp blink every 15 seconds?
You can jump the two wires going to the thermostat at the furnace so you don't have to control the furnace from the thermostat. Just turn it down and then connect or disconnect the jumper while you observe. See if you can get it fired up and hot and turn it off and on with the jumper.
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Countryside 3500P (pedestal version) used 8-9 yrs, 24/7 during days requiring heat. All original motors. Burns moldy corn, and pellets equally well. Burn it if you got it.

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Don't run with the pilot cycle switch at 16 this time of year or during start up anytime of year. We can chat about this setting when it gets warmer this spring. Tall - god bless you - but you don't have one of these and your simply reading the propaganda and making assumptions! Not that that hasn't worked for you in the past - but lets keep this clear for Wayjamus and not just build you post count more. The control of these appliances is simple - one fan choke plate - one fuse - one thermostat - three switches - no timers to fiddle - no rheostats to crank - get over it !!!! If you get in your car and it doesn't start because you simply turned the key - diagnosis isn't a two step process there either, especially isolated from the appliance by the public internet.

Wayjamus
Go back to your on line manual and set up the switches as detailed on page 14 or 15 (dependent on fuel) proof that the yellow wires have continuity via the house thermostat - or you have them wire nutted together. what sort of thermostat are you using?

Go back and proof the wiring about the fan limit control and all the connections once more on page 13 -- Is there a set screw to adjust its call for blower and hi burn operation? Might some one have turned it down/up for "testing" go back to the safety disk - be sure that power will not flow through it when it is below 110 degrees. (usually they fail open but) If these things are in place - when you set as page 14 the draft fan should be running - the feed motors should not be, the blower should also not be running yet. - Tune the stove switch to off- Light the pot with your first fire material and switch the appliance on when you get it burning tune the stove switch to the feed system position - with the thermostat calling (closing the connection of the yellow wires) the unit will heat up because the combustion fan is feeding air to the fire in the pot - and when the safety disk reaches 110 degrees, the feed motors will run and continue the party - the blower will start and stop when its hot enough - the feed system may start and stop if the blower cannot move enough heat away - ( that's ducting of scorched air don't ask me to size you ducts)
and the appliance will drop into idle fire when the thermostat is satisfied - till it calls again.


it appears when you made progress as remarked in your post of 11.pm last night, it was a simple wiring mistake -- look for one more of those before putting the primary control out to pasture. Then too when (if) you call for a new on - detail your intimate relationship with it to the tech at Traeger before asking them to simply ship a new one.
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When you turn your boiler on -- Does it return the favor?
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[Wayjamus]

I think I have the green and purple the way they were now but good to know it doesn't matter.

Ok, with the pilot switch to 16 and the switch set to the top position which is "FEED", the combustion fan has now reverted back to low speed and the red light blinks on every 15 secs which seems to be proper operation.

I'll fire it up in a bit.

[tallcorn]

Sting, you are correct, I don't have one. I got lucky.
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Countryside 3500P (pedestal version) used 8-9 yrs, 24/7 during days requiring heat. All original motors. Burns moldy corn, and pellets equally well. Burn it if you got it.

[Wayjamus]

Sting,

Here's the model t-stat I'm using:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000EW7ZKC

It's a 2 wire. It seems to be working because the red light blinks every 15 secs when I turn it off but the red light is dim when I turn the t-stat on.

The set up on page 14:

I have the t-stat on, cycle time to 8 and pilot draft to medium. When I flick the switch to DRAFT or FEED the combustion fan comes up to full speed. Other motors are off.

The control panel seems to be operating properly it seems? I'm not quite sure about the wiring because I think the wires that are on the replacement motors are different colors.

Now that I know the t-stat is on, I'm going to fire it again and see what happens. Fingers crossed.

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looks good from here in figment of the public internet land


lets see if the safety switch will proof and the appliance takes off
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When you turn your boiler on -- Does it return the favor?
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[Wayjamus]

Hahaha I think I've been there?


Well I've got a ROARING fire going right now. Something is not right about it because the thermostat is calling for fire, the blower is going full blast but the only way I can get the feed motors to operate is to keep the switch on DRAFT. When I switch to FEED they shut off. That fire is filling the window and my adjustments on the draft blower don't seem to make any difference. I'm not sure yet if the safety disc is good or not. It took a LONG time to get that part of the pipe anywhere near 110 degrees. I had to reload the pot three times to keep the fire going. I didn't have the front panel on the first time though so maybe that had something to do with it.

I've turned the thermostat down to 65 so I can see if it's going to keep going. The blower is coming on pretty regularly.

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